Stick with lead. If I want heavier bullets, I grab my 7mm Mag with 154 Interbonds. FWIW, Dutch. Shooting a Remington 7600 in this caliber has been a pleasure and super performer in the thick hardwoods as well as reaching out across a cut corn field. The 280 Remington and the 284 Winchester will shoot bullets of 160 grains and heavier to nearly the same velocity and point of impact. I took a little bull last fall with the 160 AB in my 7 mag and it performed "perfectly". I had a 7mm-08, which is a great caliber, but sold the rifle to a young man looking for his first deer rifle. Ted, I grew up in S.W. My most recent 8 Pointer didnt know the difference. Mar 27, 2011 949 1 Western Montana. Since the 270 Win is revered as an excellent elk round in many circles, then why not the 280? If you want to stick with Hornady, their Interbond would be the way to go. Magnum primers work well with these propellants. Mar 14, 2017 #2 I use R19 with 140gr Nosler Partitions. You would shoot the bull elk that was closest, “looked bigger,” had the best shot at, or had the best angle for a good shot. You can reach the vitals from any angle. My own experience is pretty much in line with the favorable comments regarding the .280 and elk. My buddy has an Encore Pro Hunter in .280 and we're having issues getting a load that shoots well in it. It can be loaded with everything from 100-grain Sierra Hollow Points to 195-grain Berger Elite Hunters. You should consider a heavier stronger bullet though. Craig Boddington As standard cartridges go, the .280 Remington has one of the oddest histories. The .280 served you well. All I know is that when wifey-poo breaks out her Tikka in 280 and 140 gr. Headed on my first plains game hunt in May. Woodleighs or Noslers is a credible elk rifle depending on where and how you hunt..If you hunt the swamps, black timber where all shots are going away then the big bores like the 338, 9.3 and 375 are much better..If you hunt the sage brush, sidehills, you can't beat a 7x57, 270, 280 or 30-06 or thier ilk... Have a buddy that has a ton of rifles but they are all chambered in 280. Nosler offers two Custom and two Trophy Grade loads for the .280 AI but that’s about the extent of factory-loaded options. Joined Feb 22, 2008 Messages 489 Location Memphis Tn. Ron is right – there’s not a lot of difference. It has no data for the 280 … Shooting a Remington 7600 in this caliber has been a pleasure and super performer in the thick hardwoods as well as reaching out across a cut corn field. It worked very well and she only went about 30 feet. Factory data has it exiting the muzzle at 2,850 fps, just 90 fps slower than the same bullet in Hornady’s 7mm Remington Magnum ammo. Otherwise a Nosler Partition would be my first choice. In the .280 section, he lists the following loads and results: powder charge velocity accuracy Here's why. Mar 14, 2017 #3 In my 280 Remington I used IMR4350 with 140 … you can load some awsome rounds with the .280 people need to remember that elk were hunted to near extinction with the .30-30. the .280 is a good elk gun as long as you take the time to practice, practice shot placement , AND GET TO KNOW THE RIFLE. The 30-284 wildcat used the same loading data as the 30-06. He’s even used it on African plains game. Yeah it looks kinda funny but what it does for me is gives me Remington 7mm Mag. If you want to stick with Hornady, their Interbond would be the way to go. Im using 154 Grain Hornady GMX bullet. I'm not acquainted with current factory loads for the 280, but based upon personal experience with both the 7x57 and 284 Win, I'd have no qualms about using them. My primary rifle for all large game hunting is a 30-338 wildcat and my secondary or backup rifle is a .280 Remington. .280 Remington said: What he said. I would try both of these and hunt with … My primary rifle for all large game hunting is a 30-338 wildcat and my secondary or backup rifle is a .280 Remington. Used the 160 PT in my previous 280 on whitetail, mule deer, elk and moose. For example, all three of Federal Premium’s 140-grain loads for the .280 Rem. Looking for loads for a 280 Remington. Powered by UBB.threads™ PHP Forum Software 7.7.3. But Western Cartridge Company’s Lubaloy jacket, comprising 90 percent copper, 8 percent zinc and 2 percent t… no worries. Otherwise a Nosler Partition would be my first choice. In the article he includes some reloading data and ballistic results for several calibers, including the .280 Remington. What powder is working best for those who load .280 REM? higher ballistic coefficients at the top of the weight spectrum than .277″ bullets. However the data from Hodgdon shows 59 grains of H-380 for a muzzle velocity of 3005 FPS for the 30-06. I used 140 gr. "Lay in the weeds and wait, and when you get your chance to say … What, in your opinion would be the optimum bullet weight for the 280 as a mule deer/elk thumper? I’ve also had superb results with Berger’s 168-grain VLD Hunting. I think the 280 and 7x57 with 175 gr. The .280 Remington debuted in 1957, but unfortunately it came along a few decades too late to become a monster hit because the .30-06 and .270 Winchester had running head starts. Learned about 7MM rifles with my first Mauser in 1956 and elk are shaking in their hooves. The 280 is the ballistic twin of the 270 Win and we all know its record on elk.........I've even killed moose with it and it works just fine. Use 160 grain Partitions. For the 140 gr PT/AB/BT, try RL19. I am wanting to get as much velosity as I can and still be accurate. Users browsing this forum: No registered users and 5 guests, Nosler Inc  |  Privacy  Use  Order Processing. Looking for loads for a 280 Remington. 150gr Nosler Part and the 280 Rem seem to be a perfect match. He got a mature bull without issue. As is the case with many other cartridges developed in the United States, the story of the .270 Winchester, the .280 Remington, the .280 Ackley Improved, and the 7mm Remington Magnum starts with the .30-06 Springfield. I am new to reloading so I'm picking up materials as I go along. .280 vs .30-06 [ edit ] The .280 Remington is capable of developing energy nearly equal to the .30-06 Springfield , but with lighter bullets having a better ballistic coefficient . The .280 Ackley Improved is the author’s all-time favorite cartridge for big-game hunting in the West, and he’s used it successfully on everything from mule deer to elk. This is not a “through the shoulder” load; it is so accurate in my .280 I have no problem slipping it between the ribs on a deer or, if the … They “take a lickin’ and keep on tickin’. This 6mm one opened pretty well for me at 2000 FPS. Sep 6, 2003 #2 W. whitedeer New member. I would think the heavier bullets and added velocity would shade the 280 in less than ideal conditions. Looking to bring my .280 Remington. Find 280 Remington Ammo for sale, in-stock and ready to ship at Ammo Freedom. Then, in 2019, Hornady introduced a 162-grain ELD-X bullet loaded in the.280 AI, adding it to the excellent Precision Hunter line of ammunition. 57.0 grs MAX and well under MOA. Lots of people use the 150 gr bullet in the 06, and there is little difference between the two cartridges. Will I be able to get 3000+ with 140 Accubonds because that is the bullet I am wanting to use Thanks Ted . Posted: Wed Feb 10, 2016 4:11 pm . I sold my .280 and now I have a .280 AI and shot my elk last year with one shot at 450 yards with a 140 gr. Home; My Account. Did just fine. The .280 Rem is an excellent choice and, if I might add, the .280 Ackley Improved offers the slight improvement that P.O. Introduced in 1962 with the Model 700 rifle, it featured 150- and 175-grain factory loads. I was wondering if anyone had any pet loads for the 280 Rem. Neither seemed to me ideal for elk, though Wyoming outfitter Les Bowman and the Remington company promoted the round masterfully. The 12 Best Cartridges for Elk Hunting. You really don't need all that power and noise for elk. The 280 is an excellent round. After the Great War, cupro-nickel, of 60 percent copper and 40 percent nickel, became the jacket of choice. Joined: Tue Nov 26, 2013 4:27 am Posts: 1625 You should have no problems with the 150PT. Both are just a tiny bit less powerful than the .280, but not nearly enough that any dead elk would notice. If you have a good load with the 150 grain Partition, you're golden. Partitions in my .280 and sold it before the Accubonds came out. Shaw Custom Barrels sells new barrels in five different contours chambered, crowned, and threaded for your specified action for as little as $160. On a Mauser 98 action it will reach way out there and with the right bullets elk, deer, bear, or moose are on their way to be in my freezer. Absolute elkicide. Post subject: Re: Cow elk load for 280 Remington. Partitions in my .280 Remington for years and took numerous elk with it. Ron is right – there’s not a lot of difference. Ammo Freedom. 6.8 Remington SPC Load Data; 27 Nosler Load Data; 270 Winchester Load Data; 270 Winchester Short Magnum (WSM) Load Data; 270 Weatherby Magnum Load Data; 7mm Mauser (7×57) Load Data; 7mm-08 Remington Load Data; 284 Winchester Load Data; 280 Remington Load Data; 7mm Rem Short Action Ultra Magnum Load Data; 280 Ackley Improved Load Data list velocities of 2,990 fps while Nosler’s 140-grain Accubond Ackley Improved loads get you 3,150 fps. The .280 Remington debuted in 1957, but unfortunately it came along a few decades too late to become a monster hit because the .30-06 and .270 Winchester had running head starts. Jan 26, 2012 #2 S. Shortmagman Well-Known Member. 0.417 COAL: 3.250" Barrel Length: 24" Case: Winchester Twist Rate: 1:10" Charge Velocity Charge Velocity Load Powder (grains) (fps) (grains) (fps) Density (%) RL … .280 Remington Bullet Weight: 175 gr Case Trim Length: 2.530" S.D. My Account My Orders My Address Book My Password. It has no data for the 280 Rem. I want some advice please. By Joseph von Benedikt. I would feel more comfortable yet with my 7mm Rem mag on elk. This variety makes it … I'm partial to the long actions. Which is better? The .280 Remington retains the gradual taper and gentle shoulder of the .30-06, and even with the best loads will lag a bit behind the 7mm Remington Magnum. I've killed elk with both the .284 Win and the 7mm-08 Rem. However, it was introduced in a different time, when the ascendancy of the bolt action wasn’t as clear as it is today. So although this seems very odd, Remington actually introduced the .280 Remington in their Model 740 semiautomatic, following with … No doubt the newer 280 AI will serve you just as well. That's only because the 140 gr. At least, not for very long. Remington currently produce four loads for the.280 including, the 140 grain Core-Lokt at an advertised 3000fps, the 140 grain Accutip at 3000fps, the 150 grain Core-Lokt at 2890fps and the 165 grain Core-Lokt round nose bullet at 2820fps. I may bring two rifles, the other rifle is a .300WSM Thanks in advance My go to now is a 280AI which takes care of bussiness nicely. The January 2001 issue of "RIFLE" magazine has an article by John Barsness about custom bolt-action rifles. I’ve had very good luck with Reloder 25 and IMR 7828 as well. For the 160 gr PT/AB, try IMR4831. Im using 154 Grain Hornady GMX bullet. Nosler Partition. Find a tough cartridge for one of the most prized and toughest hooved big game animals around. The 280 Remington could be the Goldilocks of standard-length action hunting rounds. Part of his pitch for Remington’s big 7 was that it didn’t belt you like a .300 Magnum. The same goes for the 145gr .270 Winchester vs the 150gr .280 Remington load. You aren't going to find a lot of choices and I admit I don't have a .280 but I can say that the basic Remington"CorLokt" .308 150 gn has done good work for me without excessive meat damage. Although the 280 Remington was derived from the .30-06 case, it has a slightly different shoulder location and will not chamber in either .30-06 or 270 Winchester rifles. 54.0 grs shoots .400" at 100 yds and is a dandy elk … 270 vs 280 Remington vs 280 Ackley Improved vs 7mm Rem Mag: History. All three were lung shot, and all were dead within 25 yards or so of where they were hit. Remington .280 factory loads are currently offered with three different 140 grain spitzer bullets, all with a muzzle velocity of 3,000 fps and a muzzle energy of 2,797 ft. lb. You should have no problems with the 150PT. I myself am not so optimistic. Per the Nosler reloading manual, a 140 grain bullet can achieve over 3100 fps and a 150 grain, almost 3000. Remington and Federal both load premium bullets in … The 12 Best Cartridges for Elk Hunting. The 140-160 gr. In my old Remington 725 .280 Remington, 54.0 grains of IMR 4350 behind a 160 grains Nosler Partition bullet, chrono'd at 2882 FPS, works just fine on elk. The .280 Remington retains the same 17-degree 30-minute shoulder of the .30-06 but uses the 2.54-inch case of the .30-03 Springfield. Never would I say the 7mag was more effective or killed em more dead. You may indeed have a runner, but with the X bullet I hear that it leaves a lot … The .280 is fine. I took a little bull last fall with the 160 AB in my 7 mag and it performed "perfectly". Updated: May 10, 2019. Regards, Sent from my SAMSUNG-SGH-I337Z using Tapatalk . Let’s face it, a hunter who owns a .270, .30-06, or 7mm Rem. It has never had enough sales to support an extensive variety of factory loads, yet those who use it … My favorite load for the .280 serves double duty on unruly groundhogs and coyotes and usually gets the call for our whitetails, Speer’s 115-grain hollow point and 58 grains of Hodgdon 4350 in Remington cases and set off with Remington’s large rifle primer. Based on the .30-06 case necked down to take a 7mm, or .284-inch bullet, the cartridge was introduced in 1957. For lighter bullets there will be about a 100 fps difference in velocity, and not much change in impact at normal hunting ranges. The .280 is fine. Headed on my first plains game hunt in May. I shot nothing but 140 gr. Joined: Mon Apr 05, 2010 5:59 am Posts: 4438 Lots of people use the 150 gr bullet in the 06, and there is little difference between the two cartridges. 280 Remington As Goldilocks. If you are a handloader though, the choice is a no-brainer. The Ideal Deer (and Occasional Elk) Cartridge. I have hunted a few different 280s for elk over the years along with one or two elk taken with a 7mag. My most recent 8 Pointer didnt know the difference. XLC's, I better have the knives sharpened and the back pack ready to go. Notable post-war wildcats such as the . It has never had enough sales to support an extensive variety of factory loads, yet those who use it generally swear by it. Seems to me like I should be able to load it with as much Hodgdon H-380 as my 30-06 with a 150 Sierra BTSP. Best 280 Ammo For Elk Montana Elk Hunting: 30-06, 270, 280 – The 30-06 Springfield, 270 Winchester and 280 Remington are the Timex watch of elk cartridges. A better choice for elk hunting than Remington’s big 7mm is tough to find. And Mule deer. Not every possible caliber is listed, of course, but if you shoot an unlisted caliber there will probably be a listed caliber that is similar. Its flat arc and relatively light recoil appealed to hunters. Just picked up a Ruger M77 Mark II in 280 that is a RMEF edition. A 150 grain Partition is more of a great thing. It’s a great cartridge saddled with an unfortunate legacy. I'm comfortable on cow elk with a 140 grain Partition or a 140 grain AccuBond out of my .280. Because the .280 can generate impressive velocities and still maintain good accuracy, it is one of our primary cartridges for 7mm production testing. You’ve provided a caliber, which can fire a range of bullets. Hey Folks! I'm sure the 280 would do just fine most of the time, but what about a long shot or a shot where the elk isn't in the best position. Also, while the heaviest bullet offered in factory ammo is 160 grains, hand loaders can select 7mm bullets up to 175 grains. In my old Remington 725 .280 Remington, 54.0 grains of IMR 4350 behind a 160 grains Nosler Partition bullet, chrono'd at 2882 FPS, works just fine on elk. 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